-- Nov 2, 1899; Thursday
President Lorenzo Snow was at the office, and proceeded thence to the Temple, to meet with the Apostles in regular council.
Salt Lake Temple, 11 A.M. Present: Lorenzo Snow, Francis M. Lyman, John Henry Smith, George Teasdale, Heber J. Grant, Anthon H. Lund, and Abraham O[wen]. Woodruff.
Absent: George Q. Cannon, Joseph F. Smith, Brigham Young [Jr.], John W. Taylor, Marriner W[ood]. Merrill, Matthias F. Cowley, and Rudger Clawson. ...
President Snow inquired why prayer circles had ceased with the Council. No reason was assigned for their discontinuance, except that it had become inconvenient for President [Wilford] Woodruff to clothe, and the custom had gradually been laid aside. President Snow thought that the Council should resume its prayer
circle, and it was the feeling of all present that this should be done. ...
It was now decided to resume the Council prayer circle on the first Thursday in December.
Brother John Henry Smith remarked that a man named Samuelson had approached him, saying that he had given some thought to the subject of the Godhead. It was represented in one place, in the Prophet Joseph [Smith]'s lecture on the subject, that the Father is a personage of spirit, and in another place that he has a body of flesh and bones, also the Son. The speaker thought it would be a good thing for young theological students if there could be a reconciliation of these two statements.
President Snow believed that the best thing to do with such matters was to let them alone. He thought it proper to make necessary explanations when it was wise to do so, but there were some things that could not be reconciled to man's present finite understanding. The President then referred to the subject of the Holy Ghost and invited the brethren who had definite ideas regarding it to express themselves. In confirming members of the Church, it was customary to say to them "Receive Ye the Holy Ghost". And yet we are told that the Holy Ghost rested upon Jesus in the form of a dove. Speaking of his own experience when confirmed, President Snow said that he felt a burning sensation running from his head to his feet, and he now asked the brethren if they thought that was a personage of spirit that was resting upon him.
Brother Lyman answered, "No, that it was the power and spirit of the Holy Ghost," and Brother Lund added that when a person received the Holy Ghost, it was its power that he received, even the spirit of light and truth.
Brother Grant changed the subject by saying that he could never wind up the affairs of the Utah Loan & Trust Company until it was decided whether the Church was willing to lose some $15,000 or take stock in the proposed new company. President Snow remarked that he felt like losing the $15,000.
Brother John Henry Smith offered prayer, and the Council adjourned.
A committee of the Brigham Young Academy, consisting of Elders Edward Partridge and Reed Smoot, of the Utah Stake Presidency, Bishop Thomas R. Cutler, of Lehi [Utah], and Brother Benjamin Cluff Jr., President of the Academy, made a statement to President Snow as to what that Institution is doing in all its departments, resulting in a showing that $9,823 was needed to run the Academy to the end of the present school year, and this amount they asked to have appropriated. The matter was taken under consideration.
A Brother Cedarstrom and Brother William Armstrong, son of the late Francis Armstrong, called by appointment on business connected with certain onyx claims in which the late President Woodruff and his counselors had become interested. The question had arisen in President Snow's mind as to whether he would advance any more money on these claims, and this was the business to be
considered. The following named brethren were present by invitation of President Snow to help consider the matter: Bishop William B. Preston, Anthon H. Lund, Abraham O[wen]. Woodruff, Franklin S. Richards, and LeGrand Young. It having been ascertained that about $4,000 had been advanced in order to secure these claims, the suggestion was made that the best of them be patented, and President Snow felt inclined to do this. It was now learned there was a marble claim in the same region, and that Brother Cedarstrom had been advised by the late Brother Armstrong to let the marble claim go in with the onyx claims, on the same conditions. This, Brother Cedarstrom said, he was willing to do. The talk resulted in a determination by the President to send some practical man to examine all these properties, Brother William Armstrong to accompany him, and the two to report whether or not, in their opinion, they were worth patenting. (1)
-- Nov 2, 1899
President Lorenzo Snow was at the office, and proceeded thence to the Temple, to meet with the Apostles in regular council.
Salt Lake Temple, 11 A.M. Present: Lorenzo Snow, Francis M. Lyman, John Henry Smith, George Teasdale, Heber J. Grant, Anthon H. Lund, and Abraham O[wen]. Woodruff.
Absent: George Q. Cannon, Joseph F. Smith, Brigham Young [Jr.], John W. Taylor, Marriner W[ood]. Merrill, Matthias F. Cowley, and Rudger Clawson. ...
President Snow inquired why prayer circles had ceased with the Council. No reason was assigned for their discontinuance, except that it had become inconvenient for President [Wilford] Woodruff to clothe, and the custom had gradually been laid aside. President Snow thought that the Council should resume its prayer circle, and it was the feeling of all present that this should be done. ...
It was now decided to resume the Council prayer circle on the first Thursday in December.
Brother John Henry Smith remarked that a man named Samuelson had approached him, saying that he had given some thought to the subject of the Godhead. It was represented in one place, in the Prophet Joseph [Smith]'s lecture on the subject, that the Father is a personage of spirit, and in another place that he has a body of flesh and bones, also the Son. The speaker thought it would be a good thing for young theological students if there could be a reconciliation of these two statements.
President Snow believed that the best thing to do with such matters was to let them alone. He thought it proper to make necessary explanations when it was wise to do so, but there were some things that could not be reconciled to man's present finite understanding. The President then referred to the subject of the Holy Ghost and invited the brethren who had definite ideas regarding it to express themselves. In confirming members of the Church, it was customary to say to them "Receive Ye the Holy Ghost". And yet we are told that the Holy Ghost rested upon Jesus in the form of a dove. Speaking of his own experience when confirmed, President Snow said that he felt a burning sensation running from his head to his feet, and he now asked the brethren if they thought that was a personage of spirit that was resting upon him.
Brother Lyman answered, "No, that it was the power and spirit of the Holy Ghost," and Brother Lund added that when a person received the Holy Ghost, it was its power that he received, even the spirit of light and truth.
Brother Grant changed the subject by saying that he could never wind up the affairs of the Utah Loan & Trust Company until it was decided whether the Church was willing to lose some $15,000 or take stock in the proposed new company. President Snow remarked that he felt like losing the $15,000.
Brother John Henry Smith offered prayer, and the Council adjourned.
A committee of the Brigham Young Academy, consisting of Elders Edward Partridge and Reed Smoot, of the Utah Stake Presidency, Bishop Thomas R. Cutler, of Lehi [Utah], and Brother Benjamin Cluff Jr., President of the Academy, made a statement to President Snow as to what that Institution is doing in all its departments, resulting in a showing that $9,823 was needed to run the Academy to the end of the present school year, and this amount they asked to have appropriated. The matter was taken under consideration.
A Brother Cedarstrom and Brother William Armstrong, son of the late Francis Armstrong, called by appointment on business connected with certain onyx claims in which the late President Woodruff and his counselors had become interested. The question had arisen in President Snow's mind as to whether he would advance any more money on these claims, and this was the business to be considered. The following named brethren were present by invitation of President Snow to help consider the matter: Bishop William B. Preston, Anthon H. Lund, Abraham O[wen]. Woodruff, Franklin S. Richards, and LeGrand Young. It having been ascertained that about $4,000 had been advanced in order to secure these claims, the suggestion was made that the best of them be patented, and President Snow felt inclined to do this. It was now learned there was a marble claim in the same region, and that Brother Cedarstrom had been advised by the late Brother Armstrong to let the marble claim go in with the onyx claims, on the same conditions. This, Brother Cedarstrom said, he was willing to do. The talk resulted in a determination by the President to send some practical man to examine all these properties, Brother William Armstrong to accompany him, and the two to report whether or not, in their opinion, they were worth patenting. We had a very interesting meeting. Had lunch with Apostle Geo[rge]. Teasdale. (2)
Endnotes:
1 - First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve minutes
2 - Journal History; Abraham Owen Woodruff, Diary
LDS History Chronology: Lorenzo Snow
Mormon History Timeline: the life of Lorenzo Snow
http://lds-church-history.blogspot.com/
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